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[countryman89]

Hello. I am new to the forum. Had a syrian in a bin cage a few years ago. Looking at getting a winter white in a bin cage, possibly a stacked bin cage. I am wonder if a non perforated drainage pipe would be safe to use to connect the bins, and also what size would be good for the winter white?

 

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[Lillias]

I think those ridges would get chewed. You should also keep in mind that WWs are terrible climbers, so one very large bin would be better than two smaller stacked bins.

[Freakshow]

At the very least i personally think a pipe likethat would be to larger for a WW.  you might be better served with a ramp of sorts.

[Robin~]

I think it would be better to connect two bins via a tube horizontally since hamsters aren't great climbers :P In any case, PVC pipes that are at least 2" in diameter work well as they're hard to chew through.

[countryman89]

My thoughts are about getting 2 116qt or 2 50 gallon stackers. Having two winter whites. If they can co-habitat. then run a tube to connect the two bins. I would run out the side on one bin, wrap around and connect at the other end to make it a gradual climb like a ramp. 

 

Keep in mind I know not all ww will get along and be able to live together. This is just a thought if they can. I know you can have to little space, dont think you can have too much. 

[saf]

 

 

I would strongly suggest reading these topics before considering getting a pair.

 

Disclaimer on Keeping Pairs of Hamsters

Proper Procedures for Keeping Pairs of Hamsters

Keeping Pairs - An Informal Literature Review and Discussion

 

Hopefully these will help!  

[countryman89]

I would strongly suggest reading these topics before considering getting a pair.

 

Disclaimer on Keeping Pairs of Hamsters

Proper Procedures for Keeping Pairs of Hamsters

Keeping Pairs - An Informal Literature Review and Discussion

 

Hopefully these will help!

 

Thank you for the links, will read when i have time. I am doing my research before committing to anything. Also why I stated that the bins would be separate until I know for sure they can live together. 

[Robin~]

Thank you for the links, will read when i have time. I am doing my research before committing to anything. Also why I stated that the bins would be separate until I know for sure they can live together.

Keeping the hamsters separate at any point for extended amount of time isn't recommended. In that time they'll forget each other's exsistance, which will lead to fighting when they're put back together.

With having two separate bins, that likely wouldn't work out either-- the hamsters will likely become territorial and one will claim each bin anyhow, so just keeping them separate in the first place or only getting one would be better

[Lillias]

Divided space doesn't work with pairs because someone will guard the tube and not let the other pass. Hams can be jerks. Aside from the obvious fighting risk, often one of the pair will claim both wheels and steal snacks if given half a chance.

[countryman89]

Thank you Robin~ and Lillias for those very informative post. Those are not things I had considered. Maybe I should look at doing the dual bin cage for a Syrian, and possibly do another bin just for 1 ww. Would allow me to learn about the ww before try to house a pair.

[Lillias]

You should definitely have experience with the species before attempting a pair. And it would give you a more positive impression than hamsters screaming at each other at 3 am.

[gohel]

Thanks all for providing the information. Is a Flexible drain hose/pipe ok to go from the washing machine standpipe to the outside drain? I read online on an emergency plumber site, as compared to a normal rigid pipes this one is more easy.