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[dusty]

Dear HH Members,

Do remember to start only 1 topic for the issue you are seeking help for. Creating multiple topics in different areas will only confuse other members who are trying to help you. This also ensures you do not have to keep maintaining the topics that are all over the forum when clarifying your issue.

P.S. If the forum glitches and creates duplicate topics upon your posting, just drop me a note and I will clean it up for you.

Love your hammies!
dusty

[SS710]

dude almost all of the double posts are from the fourm, its not a glitch its just bad coding/softwear. Most places don't let you click post after you clicked it once at least not right away.

 

Due to the server being hosted in singapore anyone from like the USA or far from singapore will have lag due to the ping time. during that lag they press the post button more then once and then it posts more then once. 

 

not a hard fix to make man. Trust me there is a few things you could implement to fix that issue very easily. coding wise or not.

 

because you guys don't really seem to know how to fix the forum the best option would be to give a user on here who is active daily and all the time and very helpful to moderate and delete the double post as they see them. 

 

Plus this place has no active staff maybe like once a month there is a staff on. there are a few people who are on all the time and they pretty much keep this website alive. and no I am not talking about me. but Im sure if you are on here you can easily find out who im talking about. 

[HumphreyDumptey]

 

Maybe Dusty doesn't have time in his life to code or to be active on this forum, but he still does. We're all lucky that he even started Hamster Hideout in the first place. Imo, this forum is way too small to have more staff. It's too complicated to hire staff if they are working for free or for money if only a few members are on the forum. Besides, the double posts aren't even a big deal. We would've been fine if Dusty hadn't made this topic, but he was only trying to help by making this topic. Maybe the coding isn't the best, but he's still trying the best he can to help out the forum during his busy life.

 

My point is, it's harder than we think to run a website. It comes across as rude (even if you aren't trying to be that way) to judge the person who brought the forum to you. Granted, those suggestions are good, but there's no need to say it in a mean/rude way.

[CactusBert]

^^^^^^
Idk if it’s intentional or not, probably isn’t, but at times SS kind of gives off a rude tone (not judging btw)

Edited by CheetoBert, 22 January 2020 - 01:09 AM.

[Sarahs~Hamsters]

Thank you for writing this dusty

dude almost all of the double posts are from the fourm, its not a glitch its just bad coding/softwear. Most places don't let you click post after you clicked it once at least not right away.
 
Due to the server being hosted in singapore anyone from like the USA or far from singapore will have lag due to the ping time. during that lag they press the post button more then once and then it posts more then once. 
 
not a hard fix to make man. Trust me there is a few things you could implement to fix that issue very easily. coding wise or not.
 
because you guys don't really seem to know how to fix the forum the best option would be to give a user on here who is active daily and all the time and very helpful to moderate and delete the double post as they see them. 
 
Plus this place has no active staff maybe like once a month there is a staff on. there are a few people who are on all the time and they pretty much keep this website alive. and no I am not talking about me. but Im sure if you are on here you can easily find out who im talking about.

you are actually being quite disrespectful and informal in the way you are addressing dusty. Please try to be a bit more mature next time you could of worded this much better and more respectful, the dudes and man certainly werent helping. Also not all the double posts are from glitches, ive seen multiple posted at different times and days.

[IsAnyoneThere]

To be fair, the wording may not have come across as the most polite, but it's hard to read tone on the internet, and SS710 *does* have a very good point. 

 

It's a bit harsh of us to get this communal telling-off from dusty when 90%+ of the time it literally isn't our fault, it's the forum. 

 

I know there are cases where someone multiple-posts to get more attention, but they are honestly few and far between. I can count on one hand the ones I can recall recently (and I'm talking over a span of a couple of months at least). The vast VAST majority of multiple-posted topics are from forum glitches. It just rankles slightly that we get this "reminder" from dusty telling us off for something that we all know about and are annoyed about, but that isn't our fault. 

 

For very new members, sometimes they don't know where to post, so they put it in more than one forum. With the general inactivity of the forum, that's not hard to spot (and could easily be cleaned up if there were any mods to do it). Just saying, that a post like this "reminding" the long-standing members who know the rules very well, thank you very much, and is unlikely to be seen by a new member wanting help, *is* kinda annoying to read.

[hammyXmom93]

Yes it was a glitch and I’m the one that accidentally posted this twice. I went to see if I could delete it but couldn’t. I’m new to this site. I signed up 2 or 3 days ago. I didn’t really know what to do. Sorry about that.

[SS710]

Maybe Dusty doesn't have time in his life to code or to be active on this forum, but he still does. We're all lucky that he even started Hamster Hideout in the first place. Imo, this forum is way too small to have more staff. It's too complicated to hire staff if they are working for free or for money if only a few members are on the forum. Besides, the double posts aren't even a big deal. We would've been fine if Dusty hadn't made this topic, but he was only trying to help by making this topic. Maybe the coding isn't the best, but he's still trying the best he can to help out the forum during his busy life.

 

My point is, it's harder than we think to run a website. It comes across as rude (even if you aren't trying to be that way) to judge the person who brought the forum to you. Granted, those suggestions are good, but there's no need to say it in a mean/rude way.

 

My point is the fix will take less then 5 minutes to make.

 

I know you seem to know nothing about it and you assume its something that will take a long time. no its not. Its legit a 5 or less minute fix. If you are experienced and I assume he is. 

 

Please do some research before you say stuff that is irrelevant

 

most staff on websites like this work for free. you saying they have enough staff, maybe they do but they have no ACTIVE staff, the keyword is ACTIVE. They could have 100 staff members and if they never come online its like having 0. 

 

I run a few websites of my own  I know what it takes to run one. Now a days most people use a softwear that does it all for you and with a click of a button you can change stuff that used to take hours to code. but even with manually coding that fix will take less than 5 minutes. 

 

I am sorry if people think I am rude. But this fourm has issues that are super easy to fix even a high schooler taking a class in coding the languages this website uses could fix it relatively fast. I think its mind boggling that they have issues like this for so long. 

[SS710]

Thank you for writing this dusty

you are actually being quite disrespectful and informal in the way you are addressing dusty. Please try to be a bit more mature next time you could of worded this much better and more respectful, the dudes and man certainly werent helping. Also not all the double posts are from glitches, ive seen multiple posted at different times and days.

 

Its not a glitch, its poor coding / website setup. point blank and period. If you would like to explain to me how its a bug in detail sure go ahead, But I have went to school for this type of stuff so I know well enough its not a glitch or a bug. its due to server ping and them not checking if a post was posted before they allow you to click post again like 99% of websites do. 

 

its as simple as putting a cooldown on the post button for like 10-20 sec after you press it. by that time the post should have been made. The way its set up you could click that post button like 20 times in a row and have 20 posts go up.Just wait for troll to come on here and abuse that.

[SS710]

I don't try to be rude thats just how we are where I am from. everyone pretty much talks like this in my circles. We call it tough love, How I grew up thats how we are raised.

 

If you want to get a point across you just do it point black no sugar coating. How I talk is just normal to me. I grew up in a very bad part of LA. This is not an excuse for me to act like that but im just letting you know ill take what im thinking or what I would say IRL and just say it.

 

not everyone is perfect we all have flaws and that is mine. so if you see me being rude don't take it perosabnl or get mad at me. Just tell me and 

 

To be fair, the wording may not have come across as the most polite, but it's hard to read tone on the internet, and SS710 *does* have a very good point. 

 

It's a bit harsh of us to get this communal telling-off from dusty when 90%+ of the time it literally isn't our fault, it's the forum. 

 

I know there are cases where someone multiple-posts to get more attention, but they are honestly few and far between. I can count on one hand the ones I can recall recently (and I'm talking over a span of a couple of months at least). The vast VAST majority of multiple-posted topics are from forum glitches. It just rankles slightly that we get this "reminder" from dusty telling us off for something that we all know about and are annoyed about, but that isn't our fault. 

 

For very new members, sometimes they don't know where to post, so they put it in more than one forum. With the general inactivity of the forum, that's not hard to spot (and could easily be cleaned up if there were any mods to do it). Just saying, that a post like this "reminding" the long-standing members who know the rules very well, thank you very much, and is unlikely to be seen by a new member wanting help, *is* kinda annoying to read.

At Least one person understands. Thank you. 

[HumphreyDumptey]

 

It wasn't your fault! Everybody double posts (or even triple posts) at some point.

[HumphreyDumptey]

I know you seem to know nothing about it and you assume its something that will take a long time. no its not. Its legit a 5 or less minute fix. 

 

Please do some research before you say stuff that is irrelevant

Chill. Even if you think you're better than everybody, you don't have to come to conclusions like this. I've been coding Javascript, CSS, and HTML for 7 years, but my point had nothing to do about the coding itself -- it was about how you shouldn't be rude to people. But now I see that there's no point in trying to argue with you since you "grew up in a bad place" and that's "just how you talk."

I'm just going to leave this conversation right now to prevent myself from quitting this forum again.

[SS710]

Chill. Even if you think you're better than everybody, you don't have to come to conclusions like this. I've been coding Javascript, CSS, and HTML for 7 years, but my point had nothing to do about the coding itself -- it was about how you shouldn't be rude to people. But now I see that there's no point in trying to argue with you since you "grew up in a bad place" and that's "just how you talk."

I'm just going to leave this conversation right now to prevent myself from quitting this forum again.

 

Java, HTM and CSS are not things you would use to make a website like this, sure you would USE them but they would be a minor part. Most people do not even consider HTML/CSS coding (just google it people debate it a lot) due to how basic it is. they even thought that in my middle school in 8th grade I took that class. You didn't even list python and that is considered the first REAL language most people learn. Its not just typing <html> </html> thats all HTML and CSS is, its not really coding IMHO. you dont have to make functions and call them, you dont need to understand syntax etc... its just for adding words and then adding style to the words with CSS, and you can make tables and such.

 

Java sure thats little more advanced but still your not going to be building a website on that. Websites take stuff like PHP, SSH, Pearl, C++, C# and many others. even Ruby. JAVA is more so for applications.  

 

So Now I can see why you would think its a hard fix to make as you would have zero idea what do you if you were tasked with fixing it. 

 

again please so some research, you said you know HTML CSS and JAVA like it was going to make you seem like some coding wiz kid. in 7 years if thats all you have been doing why did you start in the first place? You need to know way more then that to do anything, I guess you can code like a calculator app in java lol but with python it would be easier. 

 

So I was not wrong when I said you know nothing about it, you only know how to make words cool colors and in bold fonts lol 

 

plus why do you have such a big gif for your sig, thats probably adding to why it takes forever to load any page you post on. and its not internet problem I have google fiber at 1gb upload/download. 

Edited by SS710, 24 January 2020 - 04:57 AM.

[Robin~]

So I was not wrong when I said you know nothing about it, you only know how to make words cool colors and in bold fonts lol

plus why do you have such a big gif for your sig, thats probably adding to why it takes forever to load any page you post on. and its not internet problem I have google fiber at 1gb upload/download.

This is why people are construing you as rude. You don’t have to go around saying “[person] knows nothing” and making them feel less intelligent than you. I understand you come from a rough background, but on here this is different. We are a community whose goal is to educate people on hamster care in an approachable manner. This is not your personal friend group who you can say whatever you want with. If you’re not sure how to write in a formal/polite manner, here’s a topic on it:
http://hamsterhideout.com/forum/topic/66292-how-to-give-and-receive-constructive-advice/page-1

Besides that, you brought up a completely irrelevant topic to “critique”. I’m not sure what the gif has to do with any of this.

I don’t mean to come off as rude, honestly, we all make mistakes, but I just wanted to clarify how some things are perceived.

[dusty]

So if you read my post again, I was referring to multiple topics with different phrasings that were created deliberately in different parts of the forum. This is especially true of ailments with multiple symptoms and some members would start different topics to describe different symptoms.

Also, participating in a community is about getting along and understanding the differences with people from various backgrounds, learning from and accommodating them. Just brushing people off and telling them this is how you normally talk in your community does not work here, because this is not just your community