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[HAMSTER NUTRITION III] Calculating the Guaranteed Analysis of a Mixed Diet


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#16 queensferry

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Posted 04 January 2015 - 01:04 AM

Are the numbers showing up where you entered them?

 

Also, what browser / device are you using?

Yes, they are. And I'm using Google Chrome (on a Chromebook)






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Posted 04 January 2015 - 01:07 AM

Yes, they are. And I'm using Google Chrome (on a Chromebook)

 

Are you replacing the word "Food 1" with your numbers?  Or are you using the blank column to the right?



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Posted 04 January 2015 - 01:10 AM

Are you replacing the word "Food 1" with your numbers?  Or are you using the blank column to the right?

I am replacing the words with the numbers.



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Posted 04 January 2015 - 01:11 AM

I am replacing the words with the numbers.

 

That's why it's not working.  The words are supposed to stay there--they are labels.  The blank area to the right of the words is where you enter the numbers.



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Posted 04 January 2015 - 01:17 AM

That's why it's not working.  The words are supposed to stay there--they are labels.  The blank area to the right of the words is where you enter the numbers.

Oh, I get it now. I just refreshed the page and I am just now seeing the blank column. It's working great now :)



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Posted 04 January 2015 - 01:19 AM

Oh, I get it now. I just refreshed the page and I am just now seeing the blank column. It's working great now :)

 

I'm actually fixing it to make it less confusing, because I see how it could be an issue now.   :reading:



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Posted 04 January 2015 - 01:57 PM

I think I was doing the same thing PuddinCup as doing. It works for me now too, the changes make it way easier to understand. :)



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Posted 04 January 2015 - 02:12 PM

This is amazing, Tax! I was able to calculate all of my mixes, just to double check, plus it was fun to play around with.:)

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Posted 04 January 2015 - 03:27 PM

I'm wondering- should we have a section on how to determine actual weights from %'s and maybe a calculator for that? Because I know math is hard for some folks- so things like, if I am feeding a diet that is 60% Food A and 35% food B and 5% Food C- how do I know what WEIGHTS those are when mixing?

 

I imagine a calculator for this might be pretty easy to make- something that says- I want X, Y, Z percentages, if I add X amount of Food A in X unit of measure- what is the weight of the other ingredients?


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Posted 08 January 2015 - 03:58 AM

This is really helpful info! Thank you to all who contributed!  :yes:

Now i was wondering how i would go about using the calculator for my hammy Mochi's rolled oats and organic flax seeds. I was looking at their labels and their proteins & fiber values were listed as grams and not percentages sooo how would i go about putting those into the calculator? 

Or should i not include them...?  :huh:



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Posted 08 January 2015 - 05:56 AM

This is really helpful info! Thank you to all who contributed!  :yes:

Now i was wondering how i would go about using the calculator for my hammy Mochi's rolled oats and organic flax seeds. I was looking at their labels and their proteins & fiber values were listed as grams and not percentages sooo how would i go about putting those into the calculator? 

Or should i not include them...?  :huh:

Doing a quick google should give you the percentages :) Oats are 70% fiber, 15% fat, and 15% protein according to this website. Flaxseed is 22% fiber, 66% fat, and 12% protein from the same site :)


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Posted 08 January 2015 - 06:50 AM

Doing a quick google should give you the percentages :) Oats are 70% fiber, 15% fat, and 15% protein according to this website. Flaxseed is 22% fiber, 66% fat, and 12% protein from the same site :)

actually, according to that website, oats are 17% protein, 7% fat, and 11% fiber. You need to change the "serving size" to 100grams, and then you ignore the percentages- which show something different related to human's daily intake- and look just at how many grams of each are in the food- the grams in a 100gram serving = % they comprise of the food. :)

 

You can aso convert this by hand if you only have packaging labeling- so, say you have a package that says a serving is 28grams of oats and a serving contains 5grams of protein.

You make a ratio, and solve for X-

 

5grams of protein/28 grams of oats = X grams of protein/100grams of oats

 

Flaxseed on that site is 18% protein, 42% fat, 27% fiber :)

 

5 x 100= 500

500/28= 17.8% protein

 

In other words-

 

grams per serving of target component (fat, fiber, protein) X 100 then Divided by the total serving size in grams.


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Posted 08 January 2015 - 06:51 AM

actually, according to that website, oats are 17% protein, 7% fat, and 11% fiber. You need to change the "serving size" to 100grams, and then you ignore the percentages- which show something different related to human's daily intake- and look just at how many grams of each are in the food- the grams in a 100gram serving = % they comprise of the food. :)

Oh, whoops. Totally knew that (not ...).



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Posted 08 January 2015 - 09:51 AM

@ PuddinCup & Nebit 

Ah thank you very much!!! 

It seems that i really must get lab blocks after recalculating >< protein for Mochi seems to be ever stuck at 15~16% no matter how i alter the portion percentages of food  :boggled:

Thank you again!! ^^



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Posted 09 January 2015 - 12:18 AM

I'm wondering- should we have a section on how to determine actual weights from %'s and maybe a calculator for that? Because I know math is hard for some folks- so things like, if I am feeding a diet that is 60% Food A and 35% food B and 5% Food C- how do I know what WEIGHTS those are when mixing?

 

I imagine a calculator for this might be pretty easy to make- something that says- I want X, Y, Z percentages, if I add X amount of Food A in X unit of measure- what is the weight of the other ingredients?

 

I added this.  It was not terribly easy to make, and I worry that it's confusing, but it might be worth a shot.