Edited by Taxonomist, 21 September 2015 - 12:54 AM.

Why the Average Hamster Owner SHOULD NOT Breed
#1
Posted 15 September 2015 - 12:12 PM
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Posted 15 September 2015 - 12:59 PM
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#3
Posted 15 September 2015 - 04:56 PM
This is a brilliant guide Tax I agree with ChibiHamsters, it is upsetting to see how many people breed their hamster without the proper knowledge. It is comforting, though, to know that there are people who take the time and care to safely breed hamsters.
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Posted 15 September 2015 - 09:45 PM
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#5
Posted 16 September 2015 - 03:44 AM
Amazing Tax! You've done it again! This is a very important, and serious.
I was just wondering...is there a risk of the mother dying after giving birth?
#6
Posted 16 September 2015 - 04:03 AM
Amazing Tax! You've done it again! This is a very important, and serious.
I was just wondering...is there a risk of the mother dying after giving birth?
Absolutely. Giving birth and nursing pups takes a ton of energy out of the mother. Combine that with a careless breeding (mother is not fit to be bred - too young, too old, mildly malnourished, sick, etc.) and you have a recipe for disaster.
#7
Posted 16 September 2015 - 04:19 AM
Absolutely. Giving birth and nursing pups takes a ton of energy out of the mother. Combine that with a careless breeding (mother is not fit to be bred - too young, too old, mildly malnourished, sick, etc.) and you have a recipe for disaster.
I completely agree with Tax, you did a great job on this topic and yes that combined with careless breeding does become completely equivalent to disaster.
#8
Posted 16 September 2015 - 04:43 AM
Amazing Tax! You've done it again! This is a very important, and serious.
I was just wondering...is there a risk of the mother dying after giving birth?
Adding onto what Tax mentioned, sometimes a pregnancy might not take, and she has a phantom pregnancy. Often, these can lead to pyometra or other uterine problems which, if untreated, will kill the hamster.
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#9
Posted 16 September 2015 - 02:17 PM
Breeding just for the sake of breeding is not worth the heart break. If you breed you will lose animals at some point. Litters, females, injuries due to fights from putting animals together for breeding. I just lost a hedgehog sow who last winter started to go into hibernation at the time she had a litter. Turns out while the room temp was fine and her individual cage thermometer said it was fine the one cage wall touched the exterior house wall and the wall itself became cold. It was enough to trigger hibernation despite all our thermometers saying air temp was plenty warm. She lost the litter but acted normal after we warmed her up and increased lighting to help counter hibernation. The only symptom she had was that she failed to get pregnant twice. When we decided we should investigate the cause in case there was a health issue it was already too late. A lot of money and effort later she died. She was one of our friendliest hedgehogs.
The story is not unique to hedgehogs and I can name every animal I have lost since I was a teenager. I have bred pedigreed show rabbits (last one I lost was a lilac netherland dwarf doe who got a kit stuck and was found dead the next morning), pedigreed show guinea pigs (the last one that died was a red roan pup I put down at 3 days old because she had a heart issue and supportive care was barely keeping her alive), and now I breed pedigreed chinchillas. Even the ones that survive sometimes hurt. It took 2 years for a young female chinchilla to not break down crying around humans because she got attacked by her partner and had to have medication and an abscess on her tail cleaned daily. She hated people for a long time and I wasn't sure if she would ever recover mentally. It was so sad to listen to her high pitched cry and we wanted to just keep stuffing treats at her every time we were around to make her happier. Finally she paired up with a very human friendly, similar aged female and now she will yell and threaten you if you open the cage but does not cry and will beg for treats through bars. I still have to have my husband remove her from the cage when I am ready to clean it because I was the one who treated her tail. Things go wrong so fast and have permanent consequences on living things.
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Posted 16 September 2015 - 11:35 PM
Breeding just for the sake of breeding is not worth the heart break. If you breed you will lose animals at some point. Litters, females, injuries due to fights from putting animals together for breeding. I just lost a hedgehog sow who last winter started to go into hibernation at the time she had a litter. Turns out while the room temp was fine and her individual cage thermometer said it was fine the one cage wall touched the exterior house wall and the wall itself became cold. It was enough to trigger hibernation despite all our thermometers saying air temp was plenty warm. She lost the litter but acted normal after we warmed her up and increased lighting to help counter hibernation. The only symptom she had was that she failed to get pregnant twice. When we decided we should investigate the cause in case there was a health issue it was already too late. A lot of money and effort later she died. She was one of our friendliest hedgehogs.
The story is not unique to hedgehogs and I can name every animal I have lost since I was a teenager. I have bred pedigreed show rabbits (last one I lost was a lilac netherland dwarf doe who got a kit stuck and was found dead the next morning), pedigreed show guinea pigs (the last one that died was a red roan pup I put down at 3 days old because she had a heart issue and supportive care was barely keeping her alive), and now I breed pedigreed chinchillas. Even the ones that survive sometimes hurt. It took 2 years for a young female chinchilla to not break down crying around humans because she got attacked by her partner and had to have medication and an abscess on her tail cleaned daily. She hated people for a long time and I wasn't sure if she would ever recover mentally. It was so sad to listen to her high pitched cry and we wanted to just keep stuffing treats at her every time we were around to make her happier. Finally she paired up with a very human friendly, similar aged female and now she will yell and threaten you if you open the cage but does not cry and will beg for treats through bars. I still have to have my husband remove her from the cage when I am ready to clean it because I was the one who treated her tail. Things go wrong so fast and have permanent consequences on living things.
This is another great point why just random average hamster owners should NOT breed animals, absolutely so many things can go wrong, not only that but if you're breeding, you might be in it for the money and that's NOT okay. (Please note-I am not saying Kaliska is in this for money-I am mentioning that so many other people are)
So many things can happen and if you are breeding the RIGHT way than you might only end up with no profits but more bills, and maybe only a profit of 50 cents, okay. So much money would have to go into this, and you would have to have exotic vets, vet bills money- I know the average owner does not have money for 16+ hamster and hamster cages, the bedding, the food, the space, or even the time.
#11
Posted 17 September 2015 - 07:17 AM
Thank you for posting this! I think it's absolutely necessary for people to know all of this before they even think about breeding any of their hamsters. Great job on what you wrote, hopefully this will clear up confusion for people that think they can just breed animals randomly, or for the profit. No animal deserves to suffer under the careless action of humans. Thanks again!
#12
Posted 24 September 2015 - 12:16 AM
Great post, it's sad to see how people breed just because they want to see 'cute pups', it's cruel and should never be done.
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#13
Posted 16 October 2015 - 06:59 AM
Well said!
#14
Posted 16 October 2015 - 07:32 AM
This is excellent!
#15
Posted 16 October 2015 - 10:01 AM
Why do unprofessional breeders have to breed? There are so many hamster waiting for homes ):
Edited by Hamsters107, 16 October 2015 - 10:01 AM.