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[Kikya]

Maybe try getting a piece of cardboard and dividing the bin. It’s not as ideal as having two bins but at least it will keep them from mating. 
 
 

Also what do you mean by Quione  being alone in the enclosure?

He means the babies are in two bowls not in the cage right now being watched by his mom.

[lostinspace]

alright, i'm back - i got two bird bottles that i'm sure work for hamsters. they are pretty much DETERMINED to leave the bowls and i'm trying all i can to prevent them from mixing up.

 

 

 

orange- males / blue- females

 

my mom has called a petstore and they're interested in the pups, but rn i have mixed feelings. i could wait until they're older which is better but my mom says that i should give them now (the store will take care of em) so i'm not stressed out which i also want to do. what do i do? which one is best? i'm so tired.

[lostinspace]

Ah! I hear that hamsters sexually mature very quickly. Since they don't have the longest lives, their process is a lot speedier than we may think. 

A few things... I would urge you to do anything BUT give these hamsters to a pet store. If you can, reach out to members in your community or put up a flyer! It could be a great way to make more in-person friends. In the meantime, it would be good to separate the males from the females (if you can tell which ones are which) and just keep doing the amazing job you have been. You certainly didn't ask for this, but you're doing great and you'll look back on this as a special time in your life!

If I was in Brazil I'd totally take a few babies off your hands <3

i REALLY want to give them to individual owners but its really difficult :/ it might be my only choice

[Kikya]

alright, i'm back - i got two bird bottles that i'm sure work for hamsters. they are pretty much DETERMINED to leave the bowls and i'm trying all i can to prevent them from mixing up.

 

 

 

orange- males / blue- females

 

my mom has called a petstore and they're interested in the pups, but rn i have mixed feelings. i could wait until they're older which is better but my mom says that i should give them now (the store will take care of em) so i'm not stressed out which i also want to do. what do i do? which one is best? i'm so tired.

Are they still nursing at all? It's usually best not to give them away until 4+ weeks but it's understandable you may not have a choice.

 

Did you see my PM btw?

[lostinspace]

update, i had a fight with my parents, neither of them want anything to do with the hamsters. this is completely in my hands now. i feel so alone.

 

they really think i should just give the pups away tomorrow. i want to raise them here and just THEN i might give them to a store. i don't trust stores, i think they'll raise the pups badly, i know they keep them in already bad conditions but i want them at least to be grown adult hammies before that. their life would be at much bigger risk if i gave them away with less than 4 weeks of age.

 

i dont know what to do. they dont agree with me, they think it will all go wrong and they think that i 'always think im right'. any ideas?

 

ps: i have 3 older siblings, i can ask them for help but even they might turn against me. 

[Kikya]

update, i had a fight with my parents, neither of them want anything to do with the hamsters. this is completely in my hands now. i feel so alone.
 
they really think i should just give the pups away tomorrow. i want to raise them here and just THEN i might give them to a store. i don't trust stores, i think they'll raise the pups badly, i know they keep them in already bad conditions but i want them at least to be grown adult hammies before that. their life would be at much bigger risk if i gave them away with less than 4 weeks of age.
 
i dont know what to do. they dont agree with me, they think it will all go wrong and they think that i 'always think im right'. any ideas?
 
ps: i have 3 older siblings, i can ask them for help but even they might turn against me.

If your parents think you are always right, perhaps, calmly ask to hear their side and calmly explain yours. Tell them that you only want to do what's best for everyone involved including the hamsters. Ask them their concerns and instead of immediately answering, give it some time to think it over and respond calmly.

You have a very supportive community of people that help you and know more about raising hamsters than a random pet store.

[lostinspace]

my mom said she has a basin with a rather good size (i've seen it) and we might use it. the barrier i put indeed does not work as a 'male' (now i think its female) pup managed to get to the females' side because theres a tiny space between the bin's wall and the barrier. i dont think anything will happen during the night, i might have mistaked playing as mating but either way im still worried. i wonder if i'll even sleep tbh. tomorrow we'll wash the basin and i'll put some pups in it while the others stay with the entire bin.

[lil BIG dwarf]

I’m so sorry about your situation! I don’t know much about hamster pups, but when in doubt put the unknown pup with the males-it’s better one pregnant female than all the pregnant females. The chance of them harming each other is very low.

[azzashadowslayer]

update, i had a fight with my parents, neither of them want anything to do with the hamsters. this is completely in my hands now. i feel so alone.

 

they really think i should just give the pups away tomorrow. i want to raise them here and just THEN i might give them to a store. i don't trust stores, i think they'll raise the pups badly, i know they keep them in already bad conditions but i want them at least to be grown adult hammies before that. their life would be at much bigger risk if i gave them away with less than 4 weeks of age.

 

i dont know what to do. they dont agree with me, they think it will all go wrong and they think that i 'always think im right'. any ideas?

 

ps: i have 3 older siblings, i can ask them for help but even they might turn against me. 

 

I would do everything you can to keep them from the pet store, however totally understandable if you can't find anyone to take them

 

definitely try asking your siblings for help. chances are at least one of them will be able to help out at least a bit?

 

do you think you might be able to make an amazon wishlist or something? then some of us could help you out a bit with the cost??

 

it's a really rough situation, I'm so sorry you have to deal with that :( you've done an amazing job already! remember that you aren't alone... we're all here for you!!!

 

good luck to you and the hamsters <3

[hotglue01]

I would do everything you can to keep them from the pet store, however totally understandable if you can't find anyone to take them

 

definitely try asking your siblings for help. chances are at least one of them will be able to help out at least a bit?

 

do you think you might be able to make an amazon wishlist or something? then some of us could help you out a bit with the cost??

 

it's a really rough situation, I'm so sorry you have to deal with that :( you've done an amazing job already! remember that you aren't alone... we're all here for you!!!

 

good luck to you and the hamsters <3

Agree! You're doing great... I know it's a lot of stuff you didn't expect to deal with, but keep trying and have hope! It's great that your mom found a bin to use, too.

[lostinspace]

update

 

we cleaned the basin, i put the males in there as it seems to be less of them than females. https://youtu.be/1bpJ1Gw0Xvc

 

i'm not sure if the bottles are working. i did the neck scruff test thing and it's not too slow (fur goes back down in less than a second) but also not so fast as some videos show. i'm not sure if they're dehydrated or not, but i don't want to risk using water dishes because their desperation to flee the enclosure makes them step/fall inside the water. 

 

i'm getting mentally exhausted as days go on. i had to sleep in the living room last night because the pups wouldn't let me sleep (i'm NOT a light-sleeper, when it was just quione doing her hamsterness it was fine)

 

i have commented about this with my girlfriend and she says that giving them to a petstore might be my only option, due to some factors: 1) adoption here in brazil is popular only with dogs and cats, hamsters are more looked for in petstores, hence why so many adoption posts did not get any answer; 2) i can't raise them all obviously as i don't have enough bins, money nor patience for caring for 7 hamsters total; 3) breeders are really hard to find, and the closest one i found seems to be one of those breeders who keep the animals in a bin with each other carelessly (and without anything for them to do) and 4) even if i found someone, or a breeder, an uber would be very expensive and my sister's boyfriend (who has a car) already said he will not take us anywhere too far due to the gasoline price (here it's an absurd cost).

 

speaking to my girlfriend kind of made me notice how tired i am. i'm doing my best for these pups but i don't think i'll be able to do anything more. my parents aren't so willing to help me, there's the factors i mentioned above and overall i'm not in a mentally good state to take care of them anymore. i did all i could. i'm still a child, after all.

 

yet the idea of giving them to a petstore that might give them a terrible life makes me feel like i'm an awful person.

 

still, i'll wait some time before making any decision, as i particularly hate when i make a decision and then realize it wasn't necessary. 

 

thanks for all the support 

Edited by lostinspace, 27 February 2022 - 12:24 AM.

[Bye guys~ ♥]

I’m so sorry you have to give them up. But I have heard that hamsters like  that go to the “back room” basically instead of going out front like most hamsters do, they stay in the back until a nice person comes and actually adopts them  . I’m not sure if they’re in your country but it’s something to be hopeful for.

[Lillias]

They don't reach sexually maturity until 4 weeks, so you should still have a few days to double-check the sexes. The females can stay a bit longer with Mum if she is fine with them.

Provide some veggies if you are worried about dehydration.

 

Here's a FB group you can post in: https://www.facebook.com/groups/456106834988765

I don't know if there are any Brazilian members, but it's worth a try.

[lostinspace]

i'm really close to deciding this so i'll write it here. i think i'll give them away this saturday.

 

i did all i could, i protected them from being harmed ever since i learned about their birth, i've bonded with them, i fed them a balanced mix (same one i feed mum), i lost my keys when buying bottles for them in despair so they wouldn't die of thirst, there were days where i struggled to sleep, either because of the noise or constant worry. i feel like i did a decent job and i'm just urging to move on from it. i did all i could, i don't want to do it anymore. i'm done. i'm tired.

 

i'm not saying this as if i dislike them. it hurts to think about not seeing them again in my bedroom because i did grow attached. but in the end, it was quione who i intended to adopt and i want to focus on her. all i can do is pray that they are well treated and get good owners.

i love them but i simply am not capable of keeping them any longer and the longer it takes the harder it will be for people (including stores) to be interested because the pups will grow older and people usually want young hamsters; i might have got the genders wrong and one of them might get pregnant; and as they grow older the less they'll need their siblings so it would become really urgent and pressuring to try to desperately find a place for them to be before they fight with each other for territory.

 

i might change my mind but i sincerely think i won't. it's pretty much the best choice i have.

[Kikya]

You did the best you could have done, given the circumstances. That's all anyone can do. I'll pray for them to be safe and loved.