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[fuzzyhammies]

Good advice

[yamaha0300]

wow.. i have a russian camphels from petsmart and now i regret it kinda :( makes me feel sad i would of wanted a chinese but they didnt sell em here also btw if you go to a petstore and see a cage marked winter white will it be a hybrid? can it? or mostlly just russians cages are like that

[((HammiesRMyLife))]

I think pet stores should read every single one of your posts like this!

[HamsterHuey]

wow.. i have a russian camphels from petsmart and now i regret it kinda :( makes me feel sad i would of wanted a chinese but they didnt sell em here also btw if you go to a petstore and see a cage marked winter white will it be a hybrid? can it? or mostlly just russians cages are like that

Don't regret getting your hamster! All hamsters deserve love and a good life, even crossbred ones. Your hamster can still have a happy life with you.

I think most if not all RCD/WWs in pet stores are hybrids. I think breeders just put them together because they can breed and probably it's not worth their time to try to tell the two apart.

[yamaha0300]

I'd Like to start off my saying:



There are only 5 species of domesticated hamsters. They are:

• Syrian
• Chinese
• Winter White
• Campbell Russian Dwarf
• Roborovski

What is Cross Breeding?
Cross breeding is breeding hamsters of different Species (the above mentioned 5) together.




Why you CANNOT Cross Breed.
If you have noticed, you will know that all the 5 species have different body shapes, bone structure and size. The most common misconception is between Campbell Russian dwarfs & Winter White dwarfs because, many take them both to be the same species when they are not, it is because they are closely related and can technically cross breed while none of the other species can; but that it is right.

An Example of Cross breeding would be say a Lion and Tiger Bred it would then Become a hybrid : Ligers. Or if a Horse and a donkey bred it would become a hybrid : Mule

In Conclusion, Do not cross breed, be responsible and do not cross breed trying to get new color mutations; Cross breeding is unethical and does nothing to help better either species of hamster.

 

are ALL hybrid hamsters gonna get health problems? because i have a hybrid.... whats the likley hood of the getting it

[Star Lollipop]

are ALL hybrid hamsters gonna get health problems? because i have a hybrid.... whats the likley hood of the getting it

I doubt all hybrids will get health problems, if cared for correctly. Think of it this way: imagine if two people decided to have a baby. One of them is at a higher risk of diabetes than the other, while the other has sickle cells (search it up.) Despite this, they have a baby. While the baby CAN be healthy, it has a higher chance of getting diabetes AND sickle cells due to heredity, instead of one or the other. Again, their baby can still be healthy and live a happy and decently long life, if cared for properly. 

[H&A]

No, They would only breed with the species they are, Also I think almost every species of hamsters live in different regions so they would never have to come in contact they are just like how a Lion and a Tiger would never breed in the wild, it's because they were Forced, To breed.

Can a Robo and a Syrian breed?

Edited by Hamsters and Archery, 03 February 2014 - 02:48 AM.

[Mika]

Can a Robo and a Syrian breed?

 

Its impossible for a Robo and Syrian to breed, so no, they can't. 

[H&A]

Its impossible for a Robo and Syrian to breed, so no, they can't. 

Oh Cool

[Tofuthehammy]

Thank you so much! Now I know why hybrids happen.  

[yamaha0300]

is it possible for a robo and a chinese or robo and winter white or robo and russian breed? or chinese and winter white or chinese and russian breeD?

Can a Robo and a Syrian breed?

nope! there too small for a syrian. there "parts are too big for a robo. same as robo there parts are to small for a syrian if you know waht i mean

[Mika]

is it possible for a robo and a chinese or robo and winter white or robo and russian breed? or chinese and winter white or chinese and russian breeD?

nope! there too small for a syrian. there "parts are too big for a robo. same as robo there parts are to small for a syrian if you know waht i mean

 

This is not about their reproductive organs. So this is not about their 'parts'. This is about their species.

They can not mix species because their genetic makeup is too different for it to be realistically possible.

 

Robo/Chinese - No.

Robo/Winter White - No.

Robo/Russian Campbell - No.

Chinese/Winter White - No.

Chinese/Russian Campbell - No.

 

It is not possible for any of those pairings to breed. These species have been proven to be unable to cross-breed.

[yamaha0300]

This is not about their reproductive organs. So this is not about their 'parts'. This is about their species.

They can not mix species because their genetic makeup is too different for it to be realistically possible.

 

Robo/Chinese - No.

Robo/Winter White - No.

Robo/Russian Campbell - No.

Chinese/Winter White - No.

Chinese/Russian Campbell - No.

 

It is not possible for any of those pairings to breed. These species have been proven to be unable to cross-breed.

oh ok ty! im glad is it it possible for a hamster like a robo or dwarf hamster to mate with a wild field hamster?

[Poofthecat]

oh ok ty! im glad is it it possible for a hamster like a robo or dwarf hamster to mate with a wild field hamster?

No, it's like trying to breed a cat with a horse that's why you don't see cat horses all over the place they are different animals, each of them like how elephants can't have babies with fish (yes I know most fish lay eggs) it just so happens that winter whites and Campbell's CAN breed with eachother, like how domestic dogs and foxes can breed together

[nebit]

I doubt all hybrids will get health problems, if cared for correctly. Think of it this way: imagine if two people decided to have a baby. One of them is at a higher risk of diabetes than the other, while the other has sickle cells (search it up.) Despite this, they have a baby. While the baby CAN be healthy, it has a higher chance of getting diabetes AND sickle cells due to heredity, instead of one or the other. Again, their baby can still be healthy and live a happy and decently long life, if cared for properly. 

This is not exactly how those diseases work. Sickle cell disease is an autosomal recessive. The baby has NO higher risk of getting sickle cell disease if the other parent is not a carrier. They will absolutely for sure have "sickle cell trait" though (that is, they will be heterozygotes). If the other parent also has sickle cell trait, the baby has a 50% chance of having sickle cell disease. Whether the child gets sick or not, has pretty much nothing to do with proper care, it's straight genetics. That said, sickle cell trait is not terribly common so eve3n without genetic testing, a person with sickle cell in America has a fairly could chance of picking a mate without the trait. (In West Africa, about 25% of the population has the trait though, and it is higher in areas where malaria has been prevalent in the past). In the western world, anyone with sickle cell disease would almost certainly have their partner tested for sickle cell trait before propagating.

 

While diabetes has a genetic component, it's complicated and not well understood. While certain lifestyle choices may prevent or delay it in some people, in others there is likely little you can do.