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Posted 05 September 2014 - 08:51 AM

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Oh no! Animal Abuse!

A public service announcement



Maybe you're at the pet store, a friend's house, or perusing YouTube, then WHAM! You see it. The barred wheel. The cohabiting Syrians. The casual breeding. The dyed fur. The rough play or the straight up dangerous behavior.



What do you do? :worried:



We will all run into one of these situations at some point. We might be shocked :tired: sad :gloomy: or even furious :mad: But how we react to these situations very much determines the outcome.


We all have two options:

1. THINK before you speak.
Is it True?
Is it Helpful?
Is it Inspiring?
Is it Necessary?
Is it Kind?

Just because someone does something they shouldn't, it's not true to assume they are a bad person. :no: Sometimes people do things simply because they don't know any better :huh: Maybe they let their hamsters have play dates or they use a mesh wheel. That's ignorance (a lack of knowing), not abuse.
When we see this, we want to be helpful. :yes: To do that we can provide the person the tools they need to fix the situation. Remember, it doesn't help to tell someone everything they're doing is wrong if you don't tell them how to do it right.
In fact, why not offer your service - go shopping with them, or help them build that bin cage? :highfive: Your offer might inspire them to learn even more and make bigger changes for the better. :goodvibes:
Just remember that newbies can - and do - get overwhelmed very quickly. :faint: If they need a lot of help, stick with what is necessary - separate cages for the boy and girl before insisting on upgrading the size, or change the Cedar bedding before pushing for a food switch. Small steps, over time, will do more good than one giant step that the person is too afraid to take.
Lastly, remember that no matter what the situation, no matter the advice, no one will listen if you are not kind :goodvibes: You are trying to do good, so do it in a good way. There's no point in saying anything if, in the same breath, you are pushing them away. Teach them, don't ridicule, and they will appreciate it. :hug:


2. Sometimes we just have to walk away.
Sometimes the situation is truly bad. :irked: Real abusers do it just to get attention, so for goodness sake don't reward them with the exact thing they want! :bored: If there is an authority you can report to - whether it is the person's parent, the teacher that owns the classroom pet, or the website's moderating team - then bring the situation to their attention. :judge: Craigslist, YouTube, Facebook, and most other social sites all have methods to report abusive or dangerous behavior, cutting off that attention the person is so desperately seeking. Report it, send some good vibes to the animals, and let the authorities take care of it. :cop:





"Oh look at this person and the poor hamster! People like this just make me so mad!"

What are you really trying to accomplish? Does talking about how bad they are really do anything? In truth, talking about other people being wrong - without trying to help them make it right - only makes the talker look snobby. :sorry: It also destroys any chance of helping that person, that hamster, and anyone who might be making the same mistake - anyone who would have listened to you, had they not read your awful opinion of them. :fryingpan: :fight: :gloomy: Remember, you were a newbie once too. You didn't deserve ridicule then, and neither do they, now. :propeller: :grouphug:

Edited by tbiM20, 05 December 2014 - 08:55 PM.

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 11:14 AM

I once watched a youtube video of a girl making her 2 dwarf hamsters "swim" in a pool of water forcibly (not letting them out until she was finished) . But there was so many hate comments, and I didn't say anything. I don't have a youtube account, and if I did I wouldn't be much of a commenter. Is that good or bad?


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 12:01 PM

I once watched a youtube video of a girl making her 2 dwarf hamsters "swim" in a pool of water forcibly (not letting them out until she was finished) . But there was so many hate comments, and I didn't say anything. I don't have a youtube account, and if I did I wouldn't be much of a commenter. Is that good or bad?

I commented on those kinds of videos and hoped that the YouTuber would check the comments. I don't know if it's good or bad. If there weren't any comments and you commented, it's probably a good thing because the person might see.

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 12:31 PM

Its just sad to see some of the things animal abusers do.

But because its across the internet... you might be able to stop them from posting the pictures and videos. Somehow this usually makes us feel better, and usually accomplished. 

But what does it really do? nothing. just because there is no longer pictures or videos means the abuse is stopped.

Personally, i think it makes the abuser just hurt the animal more out of frustration and the attention they are getting.

I try to just walk away, but sometimes, its hard not to :worried:


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 01:17 PM

I often comment on stuff on like reddit or sometimes youtube that I see. Honestly a lot of people on Youtube are there for the attention but some are not. The ones that are not are usually have good husbrandry though. On something like reddit I post sort of like "I am not sure if you are aware and if you are then I am sorry for the following advice but I see that you have _______ and its best to _______. I can help you with ways to remedy the issue if you would like but again if you already know all this I am sorry I just am looking out for the animal :)." Usually people are really nice about it and a good 70% of the time I get "oh my goodness I feel so bad! I didn't know that! How can I fix it?" and we talk another 15% of the time they are like "yeah I know I have another wheel in the mail" or "I know but I can't seem to find a way to fix it" the rest just never reply. 


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Posted 21 November 2014 - 06:09 AM

I commented on those kinds of videos and hoped that the YouTuber would check the comments. I don't know if it's good or bad. If there weren't any comments and you commented, it's probably a good thing because the person might see.

Okay thanks :)



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Posted 21 November 2014 - 07:01 AM

Sometimes I think to my self what if I were that animal. Animal abuse is a horrible thing that should never happen to any animal. Things like this are just not humane so let's work together to stop it.
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Posted 21 November 2014 - 08:54 AM

Sometimes I think to my self what if I were that animal. Animal abuse is a horrible thing that should never happen to any animal. Things like this are just not humane so let's work together to stop it.

YASSSS!!!!!



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Posted 21 November 2014 - 10:58 AM

I once watched a youtube video of a girl making her 2 dwarf hamsters "swim" in a pool of water forcibly (not letting them out until she was finished) . But there was so many hate comments, and I didn't say anything. I don't have a youtube account, and if I did I wouldn't be much of a commenter. Is that good or bad?

 

I commented on those kinds of videos and hoped that the YouTuber would check the comments. I don't know if it's good or bad. If there weren't any comments and you commented, it's probably a good thing because the person might see.

I think I have your answer ;)

 

I think it depends on what you write. And maybe not commenting on the video you saw. I would suggest messaging the user kindly to inform them that they might be doing something wrong, that is considered animal abuse. And possibly what they could do to help solve the problem.

 

Animal Abuse is uncomfortable!



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Posted 21 November 2014 - 11:33 PM

I think the problem is how people are dealing with it when there's much better ways to deal with a situation.

 

I always try my best to help before walking away. Without being rude.


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Posted 05 December 2014 - 12:53 AM

Thanks :)
Good topic, as we all come across animal abuse at some point :sad:

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 01:28 AM

I found this video where a guy used old T shirts for bedding and he had a rubbermaid with no lid connected to his crittertrail with a waterbottle with the top and bottom cut off.. I commented nicely about hamster care and to check out hamster hidout and HH, CC26 ext. and he replied "Its just a hamster..." and deleted my comment. (all the other people didnt know about hamsters and commented stuff like "big cage" "cool do more vids" "best hamster owner ever") and in his next vid he said its just a hamster and everyone else said he did it right so I shouldent comment how to take care of it. (he ended up deleting the vid tho) but whatever..

EDIT: I MEANT OLD T-SHIRTS!!!!!

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 04:16 AM

thanks. :yes:

I'll always try to be polite when i come across someone making a mistake. :) I helped my friend build a bin cage today. :D



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Posted 05 December 2014 - 07:21 AM

I found this video where a guy used old T shirts for bedding and he had a rubbermaid with no lid connected to his crittertrail with a waterbottle with the top and bottom cut off.. I commented nicely about hamster care and to check out hamster hidout and HH, CC26 ext. and he replied "Its just a hamster..." and deleted my comment. (all the other people didnt know about hamsters and commented stuff like "big cage" "cool do more vids" "best hamster owner ever") and in his next vid he said its just a hamster and everyone else said he did it right so I shouldent comment how to take care of it. (he ended up deleting the vid tho) but whatever..

EDIT: I MEANT OLD T-SHIRTS!!!!!

Its okay not to have a top on your bin if it is deep enough and such but I only commented because I am confused how one uses a waterbottle with the bottom cut off?



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Posted 05 December 2014 - 08:33 AM

Its okay not to have a top on your bin if it is deep enough and such but I only commented because I am confused how one uses a waterbottle with the bottom cut off?

I'm also wondering this. 







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